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This doesn't bode well for America. When our borders are not respected by anyone what do we expect? Our coast lines are open targets for any and all who wish to enter. Our southern border is absolutely non-existent by design from our own government. Our northern border is just as at risk as the southern border except Washington seems to be more afraid of Canadians and Americans crossing than the violent masses pouring in from the south.

China has no qualms about openly violating our sovereignty. Why should they? They own much of our country. Hollywood, banks & insurance and even massive tracts of our farmland in the plains and fertile valley of California. They control our consumer markets because they are the only supplier we use. We stripped our manufacturing base and sold it to China for miniscule fractions of a penny on the dollar. Now they own us and we can do nothing about it. They will take Taiwan and we can't stop them. They don't need to take America. They will continue to control us and we can't stop it because our politicians are too deep in their pockets too.

The good news is the prospect of a civilization ending event that some scientists and journalists believe likely. A bombardment from space in the form of city size meteor fragments. So it's all good. Nothing to really worry about.

In the meantime I believe we should force China's hand. Openly violate their sovereignty (as if we don't already) by flying our "Blackbirds" over china all day everyday. Let them shoot down one of our spy craft. Then see who's chicken.

I got off track just a little bit but I brought it back to course in the end.

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2 hours ago, toxicweasel said:

Genuine question.

Does this even counts and violations since aircrafts can't fly that high from I know? I mean, why would you even use balloons when you have satellites for spying..... and tiktok.

Well that's a good thought, but anything entering a foreign country's air space is considered undesirable.  It must be investigated and removed.  Satellites are able to see what's happening most of the time, but.. they only circle the globe every 90 minutes, that's a lot of gaps. 

As far as I'm concerned, any foreign object flying over another country.. should be removed quickly.

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And what about the Dart project.. Something else to think about!!!

NASA’s Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) investigation team shows the spacecraft's kinetic impact with its target asteroid, Dimorphos, successfully altered the asteroid’s orbit. This marks humanity’s first time purposely changing the motion of a celestial object and the first full-scale demonstration of asteroid deflection technology.

“All of us have a responsibility to protect our home planet. After all, it’s the only one we have,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. “This mission shows that NASA is trying to be ready for whatever the universe throws at us. NASA has proven we are serious as a defender of the planet. This is a watershed moment for planetary defense and all of humanity, demonstrating commitment from NASA's exceptional team and partners from around the world.”

Prior to DART’s impact, it took Dimorphos 11 hours and 55 minutes to orbit its larger parent asteroid, Didymos. Since DART’s intentional collision with Dimorphos on Sept. 26, astronomers have been using telescopes on Earth to measure how much that time has changed. Now, the investigation team has confirmed the spacecraft’s impact altered Dimorphos’ orbit around Didymos by 32 minutes, shortening the 11 hour and 55-minute orbit to 11 hours and 23 minutes. This measurement has a margin of uncertainty of approximately plus or minus 2 minutes.

Before its encounter, NASA had defined a minimum successful orbit period change of Dimorphos as change of 73 seconds or more. This early data show DART surpassed this minimum benchmark by more than 25 times.  

“This result is one important step toward understanding the full effect of DART’s impact with its target asteroid” said Lori Glaze, director of NASA’s Planetary Science Division at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “As new data come in each day, astronomers will be able to better assess whether, and how, a mission like DART could be used in the future to help protect Earth from a collision with an asteroid if we ever discover one headed our way.”

The investigation team is still acquiring data with ground-based observatories around the world – as well as with radar facilities at NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s Goldstone planetary radar in California and the National Science Foundation’s Green Bank Observatory in West Virginia. They are updating the period measurement with frequent observations to improve its precision.

Focus now is shifting toward measuring the efficiency of momentum transfer from DART’s roughly 14,000-mile (22,530-kilometer) per hour collision with its target. This includes further analysis of the "ejecta” – the many tons of asteroidal rock displaced and launched into space by the impact. The recoil from this blast of debris substantially enhanced DART’s push against Dimorphos – a little like a jet of air streaming out of a balloon sends the balloon in the opposite direction.

To successfully understand the effect of the recoil from the ejecta, more information on of the asteroid’s physical properties, such as the characteristics of its surface, and how strong or weak it is, is needed. These issues are still being investigated.

“DART has given us some fascinating data about both asteroid properties and the effectiveness of a kinetic impactor as a planetary defense technology,” said Nancy Chabot, the DART coordination lead from the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Maryland. “The DART team is continuing to work on this rich dataset to fully understand this first planetary defense test of asteroid deflection.”

For this analysis, astronomers will continue to study imagery of Dimorphos from DART’s terminal approach and from the Light Italian CubeSat for Imaging of Asteroids (LICIACube), provided by the Italian Space Agency, to approximate the asteroid’s mass and shape. Roughly four years from now, the European Space Agency’s Hera project is also planned to conduct detailed surveys of both Dimorphos and Didymos, with a particular focus on the crater left by DART’s collision and a precise measurement of Dimorphos’ mass.

Johns Hopkins APL built and operated the DART spacecraft and manages the DART mission for NASA's Planetary Defense Coordination Office as a project of the agency's Planetary Missions Program Office. Telescopic facilities contributing to the observations used by the DART team to determine this result include: Goldstone, Green Bank Observatory, Swope Telescope at the Las Campanas Observatory in Chile, the Danish Telescope at the La Silla Observatory in Chile, and the Las Cumbres Observatory global telescope network facilities in Chile and in South Africa.

Neither Dimorphos nor Didymos poses any hazard to Earth before or after DART’s controlled collision with Dimorphos.



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The Chinese “weather ballon” was acknowledged by the People’s Republic of China government as one of theirs. It may or may not have had a covert mission. But the other “objects” dominating the news are planted distractions to steer the news away from embarrassing events and the People’s Party of America is hiding them. The latest three objects shot down were large balloons and anyone with a brain should recognize them from the cockpit photos and their lack of any equipment or devices and their behavior.

Like a magic trick. The art of distraction.

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8 hours ago, Kath said:

Be careful of the 'oh this is OK because it's just a weather balloon'...but is it? Why have they never drifted over this area before or observed before?

Just check it out, it's not normal.

That's what you assume, do you think that they do weather surveys only above China? Do you think that states do weather survey only above the US? This distraction is needed so badly that they started talking about aliens.

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Have you ever heard the saying 'beware of Greeks bearing gifts'?

Do you know where that comes from?  Probably not!  So I'll tell you, the story is in Greek Myth. the Trojan Horse.

Britannica Quote

Trojan horse, huge hollow wooden horse constructed by the Greeks to gain entrance into Troy during the Trojan War. The horse was built by Epeius, a master carpenter and pugilist. The Greeks, pretending to desert the war, sailed to the nearby island of Tenedos, leaving behind Sinon, who persuaded the Trojans that the horse was an offering to Athena (goddess of war) that would make Troy impregnable. Despite the warnings of Laocoön and Cassandra, the horse was taken inside the city gates. That night Greek warriors emerged from it and opened the gates to let in the returned Greek army. The story is told at length in Book II of the Aeneid and is touched upon in the Odyssey. The term Trojan horse has come to refer to subversion introduced from the outside. Beginning in the late 20th century, the name “Trojan horse” was applied to deceptively benign computer codes that seem like legitimate applications but are written to damage or disrupt a computer’s programming or to steal personal information.

My point is..

Beware of innocent looking things, they may not be as innocent as they appear.  Just be aware and alert. *wink*


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The Latin phrase written by Virgil in the second book of the Aeneid is "timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" (beware of Greeks bearing gifts).

Excuse the Latin quote.
But after studying this ancient language fruitlessly in school for many years, I could not resist the temptation to write down the quote that an old Latin teacher of mine used to say.

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21 hours ago, Kath said:

Seems I am not alone in my suspicions.  Thanks Gregorius. Don't trust anything, even if it's familiar.  If it does unusual things... Look at it more closely.

An old Italian proverb states, " Fidarsi è bene, na non fidarsi è meglio!" (to trust is good, to not trust at all is better!)

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My thought too Gregorius, question everything!... I know some of those balloons will be weather info  based, but, what if a similar 'larger' one was collecting info for a whole different reason... It would seem innocuous when we are expecting to see a weather balloon.  Be alert, think laterally, think 'what if'. Expand your mind, move away from the norm... start to think 'why' and who will gain from this?

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22 hours ago, Kath said:

My thought too Gregorius, question everything!... I know some of those balloons will be weather info  based, but, what if a similar 'larger' one was collecting info for a whole different reason... It would seem innocuous when we are expecting to see a weather balloon.  Be alert, think laterally, think 'what if'. Expand your mind, move away from the norm... start to think 'why' and who will gain from this?

I fully endorse your speech. Well said!

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